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What Real Genius Reminds Us About Geek Culture

Over 30 years later, this is still the best movie to turn to for geeky solidarity...

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Published on February 20, 2017

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Val Kilmer and Gabriel Jarret in Real Genius

It’s interesting to me that Revenge of the Nerds, while still full up of the nostalgia that the 80s lends us, has been repositioned in the zeitgeist. What was viewed for many years as a bit of harmless fun that waved the banner for nerds everywhere is finally being called out for exactly what it is; an Us vs Them revenge fest that never lets go of racism or misogyny, and damages the image of geek culture more than it applauds for it. That shouldn’t be surprising—RotN was always just a frat house comedy with a thin nerdy gloss applied to it. And that’s fine with me, because that was never my go-to movie for feeling the geeky solidarity.

No, my friends. That movie was Real Genius.

Real Genius was loosely (very very very loosely) inspired by actual events that took place when university students were working to crack laser technology. But in Real Genius, this is being done on the fictional Pacific Tech campus, where the students are unknowingly creating that laser for the CIA to use in government sanctioned hits from space. They don’t know this because their odious professor, Dr. Hathaway (played to a tee by William Atherton), obviously isn’t letting them in on the secret. He’s too busy skimming off the funds that the government is providing to the project, so he can renovate his house.

Our protagonist is fifteen-year-old Mitch Taylor (Gabriel Jarrett), who is accepted early to Pacific Tech because, well, he’s a genius. He’s assigned to the laser project, working with his new roommate Chris Knight (Val Kilmer), a senior at the school who appears to have given up on taking college all that seriously. So… burnt out upper classman plus eager-to-please, impressionable freshman? We’re already set up for some prime Odd Couple shenanigans. We’re introduced to a guy named Kent and his cronies, who are also working on the laser project. Unlike Chris, Kent is the ultimate sycophant and only too happy to throw other students under the bus provided he gets to be top dog. So now we have a rivalry. Mitch meets a lot of strange people at Pacific Tech, one of them being Jordan, one of the campus’ few women who happens to size Mitch up and make him a sweater the day after meeting him, which she excitedly presents to him in men’s room while he’s peeing. So now we have a love story.

And… that’s pretty much where the comparisons to most college flicks and Real Genius ends. Because the film is about a lot more than that, for all it is a very 80s campus comedy. For one, the movie is better at portraying geeks in ways that don’t just melt down to old tropes of pocket protectors and bow ties and awkwardness. It communicates that having an outrageous IQ can be isolating, but doesn’t make all smart people out to be socially undeveloped shut-ins. It also shows us how being driven toward answers can blind even the most optimistic, well-meaning folks into making terrible mistakes. And it communicates what it’s like to study for finals more realistically than any film I’ve ever seen, which is an accomplishment and a half.

No really, there’s a scene where everyone is gathered around a communal table to cram for the exam, and one guy just gets up and starts screaming at everyone before running from the building. Everyone else is unresponsive and some other dude sitting on the room’s perimeter moves into his vacated seat without comment. That’s basically the experience distilled into its purest form.

Also, did I mention that it ends on a Tears For Fears song? Because that should be enough to recommend it right there.

Another great thing about this film is how it doesn’t couch itself in the “nerd versus jock” dynamic. It’s a boring cliche that rarely bothers to examine the realities of persecution due to differences. Instead, it herds people into group stereotypes and activity negates character complexity. Real Genius knows this, and most of the rivalry here is geek-on-geek. We watch the very real dynamic of people in the same social circle trying to one-up each other to gain status, stroke their own egos, or flat out cause trouble for fun. When we reach the “party with hot girls” part of the film that so many college movies unthinkingly provide, the narrative beelines away from any form of non-consensual action; the party is full of student beauticians who are keen to meet some boys, and when the guys from Pacific Tech balk at having to talk to them, Chris Knight points out that they might try using their brains to impress them. The most uncomfortable person at the party is not any of the female attendants, but Mitch… understandable because he’s fifteen and this is probably the highest concentration of bikinis he’s ever witnessed. He finally starts having fun when he realizes that Jordan is there, testing scuba equipment in the pool.

The virtually opposing approaches to life that Mitch and Chris represent is the focal point of the tale, the paragon of straight-laced nerd-dom juxtaposed with the free-wheeling, frenetic creativity that Knight gears his mind toward. Mitch is distraught by the fact that a student he’d previously idolized appears to be nothing more than another party-hard slacker who doesn’t seem to care one bit about their work they’re doing. It’s not until later that he finds out this attitude is new; Chris was once just like Mitch, but he relaxed into this new mindset when he followed a man into their dorm room closet. (I swear that’s not a metaphor.) That man—Lazlo Hollyfeld—was a big shot student at Pacific Tech in the decade previous, who went a little out of his mind when he found out that his inventions were being used to harm others. Seeing this, Chris realized that spending his life focused on work for work’s sake was a mistake.

Unfortunately, Knight’s new groove is making it harder for Dr. Hathaway to meet his laser deadline, so the professor decides to spitefully ruin Chris’ life—giving Kent the post-school job he was already promised and flunking him out of the Pacific Tech program, preventing him from graduating. With a little pep talk from Mitch, Chris throws himself back into their project and makes real headway on the laser just to prove Hathaway wrong. It’s only after they deliver it to Hathaway that Lazlo leaves the steam tunnels below their closet and points out that what they created was likely intended for a very specific purpose—to kill people. From space. From that point on, the crew is on the clock to ruin the laser’s presentation for the military and CIA and to get even with Dr. Hathaway for using them. (Also to prank Kent because he kind of deserves it for being a lapdog and generally horrible to Mitch just because the kid is younger and smarter than he is.)

The film makes it a mission to prove that what geeks and geniuses are best at isn’t memorizing math formulas and elements off the periodic table; it’s their ability to be creative and in doing so, change the world around us. The students do get even with Dr. Hathaway, but they do it in an inspired way that essentially harms no one except him—they redirect the laser so it goes off at his home, where they’ve situated a giant ball of unpopped popcorn. Ka-blooey. Essentially, they destroy the thing that Hathaway was siphoning money off of the laser program to gain, his fancy house. It makes the project seem like a bust, effectively ruins Hathaway, and punishes him for being dishonest. As revenge schemes go, it’s a remarkably fair-minded one that’s fun to boot. And it’s not about proving their superiority over another group, but instead about taking back control over what they’ve created.

The film doesn’t showcase as many women as we might hope for (and the Pacific Tech campus is also blindingly white overall, though Chris’ friend Ikagami is present and happily avoids most of your average Asian stereotypes aside from smartness), but the way it treats the majority of those women is impressive, particularly for this era in filmmaking… no doubt largely due to the movie’s female director, Martha Coolidge. There are few instances of pure objectification just for the sake of it in Real Genius; even though the co-ed party shows plenty of girls in swimsuits, the shots that reveal them are often at a distance, never lingering. While Knight is blunt in his sexual overtures to women, the ones he encounters are more than capable of tackling his advances and throwing them back in his face when he’s not up to snuff. His directness gives him no power, which is extremely important because it indicates that not every woman is automatically going to swoon over that kind of come-on. (Which, in turn, suggests that women are real, unique individuals with different preferences.) And when they aren’t interested, Chris is never entitled or angry about it—he simply moves on.

I really can’t talk about women in this film without focusing up on Jordan Cochran. While she does occupy a typically female place in the plot (Mitch’s love interest), her portrayal by Michelle Meyrink is nothing short of revelatory when it comes to broadening the variety of women that we should expect in fiction. To start, Jordan is not a conventionally attractive girl, certainly not in a California/feature film sense. She has a weird haircut and a child-like cadence to her voice, and she’s not particularly fashionable. It’s also entirely possible for this character to read somewhere on the autistic spectrum, though by way of a Hollywoodified lens; she is uncertain of common boundaries (visiting Mitch in the bathroom and being perturbed by his inability to pee in front of her), she has severe insomnia (it’s suggested that she drove her roommate to a nervous breakdown by never ever sleeping), she misunderstands the social cues of others (she frequently assumes the ends of Mitch’s sentences incorrectly), and her idea of what constitutes an everyday activity would hardly pass for your average citizen (Mitch finds her sanding her dorm room floor late one night and she uses the beautician party as an excuse to test a rebreather she designed herself). It’s not the fact that she might be on the spectrum itself that’s remarkable, but the fact that the film never suggests that Jordan should be viewed differently because of it. It doesn’t make her “special” in a manic pixie dream way, but it doesn’t make her pitiable either. She’s simply who she is, and that person is still portrayed as desirable and engaging and brilliant.

It helps that she’s very much her own kind of genius. Jordan makes most of her own equipment, clearly comfortable with a variety of tools and practical materials. She isn’t involved in the laser project whatsoever—in fact, we’re never told what Jordan is at Pacific Tech to do aside from being some sort of eclectic savant who cares about sled velocity on ice and the smoothness of her floors. She comes off as a kind of mad scientist, probably the sort of person to invent a few hundred incredibly useful patents throughout the course of her life and hopefully retire rich with a giant lab/workshop in her basement where she can create gorgeous metalwork in peace. Prior to Real Genius, Meyrink appeared in Revenge of the Nerds as one of the members of Omega Mu, the nerd girl sorority. In that movie, she and her Greek sisters were figures to be laughed at. Here, she is an odd force to be reckoned with. There is simply no comparison; one of these characters is inspirational to young women, and the other is decidedly not. In the end, Jordan’s status as Mitch’s girlfriend has very little to do with her place in the story (outside of letting her meet these characters and form friendships with them), an effective 180 from her position as Gilbert’s love interest in Revenge of the Nerds. Jordan is a heroic character in Real Genius, whereas Judy is largely a trophy for the (male) hero in RotN.

What’s also impressive about Real Genius is that it allows its focal character, Mitch Taylor, to be as young as he is, with all the embarrassment and strangeness that being fifteen entails. Mitch calls his parents crying because college isn’t working out the way he’d prefer, and he begs to come home. Mitch is cornered alone by an older, more experienced woman who clearly wants to teach him “the ways of the world,” but he runs from the scenario, owning up to his discomfort and knowing that he’d rather be with Jordan.  The film never makes fun of Mitch for being less advanced than his peers or a perceived “square,” never sniggers at him for being the straight-laced one who cares about his work. It’s never suggested that he should simply play along, act older, learn to enjoy things that don’t interest him. Chris Knight has to convince him to loosen up by presenting real, hard data on why sticking too hard to the work might hurt him in the long run. And even then, Mitch doesn’t become a mini version of his mentor—he simply takes Knight’s advice to heart and figures out what his own version of relaxed is.

Rather than placing geeks on someone else’s playground, forcing them into an opposing socially-constructed box and proving that they can “play the game” better than everyone else by virtue of being smarter, Real Genius shows that nerds have their own games. They don’t need to run faster or get more pledges or give themselves makeovers to have fun and prove their worth. Mitch wakes up to a hall full of ice one morning; Ikagami has somehow created a gas that turns into the slippery stuff, and then back into a gas after a few hours. Chris hails the accomplishment as “Pacific Tech’s: Smart People on Ice!” The walls of the dorms are covered in strange graffiti, people shuffle back and forth between common areas and rooms in their weird-looking pajamas and towels. Knight has appointed himself as the dorm resident in charge of fun, trying to get people away from their books with “Mutant Hamster Races” and “Madame Curie Lookalike Contests.” In short, it’s like any other college campus, complete with overworked students. Nerds are not a rare and exotic breed of people, but they do make some awesome stuff, and that’s why they make for good movie plots.

It also helps that Real Genius might be one of the most quotable films on the planet. Even Joss Whedon would cry at how snappy the dialogue is, which is recommendation enough over most college movies where dialogue can be horrifically contrived. Chris Knight is the primary conduit of said snappiness, and you have to wonder how many of Kilmer’s lines are ad-libbed, because it seems like it might be a lot of them. It’s encouraging to have a character who at the start appears to be such a parody of himself—the super-smart-guy-who-can-also-be-a-jerk-because-he’s-good-looking-and-snarky—turn out to be a genuinely decent person who cares about people. And he proves that by changing his tactics with others; when he realizes that Mitch is not responding to devil-may-care antics, he quits the act and explains his reasons for exhibiting rather extreme senioritis. It comes clear very quickly that his primary reason for asking Dr. Hathaway to make Mitch his roommate is to make certain that Mitch doesn’t make his (or Lazlo’s) mistakes. Without realizing that they’re already being lured into the same gambit that snagged Lazlo years ago, Chris is already trying to provide Mitch with the tools he needs to avoid the scenario. He may be a cynic, as he says, but he’s inciting campus rowdiness to protect everyone’s health and expand their horizons, not to encourage them to blow their educations.

In that way, Real Genius occupies an interesting middle ground in how it portrays education for a film that’s all about brainy, bookish people. It’s not suggesting that going to college should be one long non-stop alcohol-fueled party haze, but it’s also not suggesting that what you learn at a higher education facility is the only valuable knowledge you will ever absorb. Life experience is shown to be equally (or even more) valuable. And while it can be easier to retreat into books when you’re a certain kind of person, the tale cautions that it’s important to stay aware of the world around you–otherwise you might miss when you’re being taken advantage of. For a film that’s already 30 years old, the wisdom it displays is universal; value your emotional development as much as your intellectual development; use your abilities to improve the world; question authority; definitely don’t make dangerous weapons for your college professors.

So you can keep Revenge of the Nerds, if that’s your thing, and all the other films of its ilk. They do a fairly poor job of committing the experience of social outsiders to memory. For a film that offers a chance to laugh with people rather than at them, to appreciate what college truly teaches most of us, to embrace what’s really fun about being an unabashed geek, I’d recommend Real Genius every single time. icon-paragraph-end

An earlier version of this article was published in May 2015.

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krad
8 years ago

*applause*

It should be pointed out that pretty much everything the nerds do in this movie (from taking a car apart and reassembling it in a dorm room on down) was done at some point or other by students at MIT and/or Cal Tech……

—Keith R.A. DeCandido

 

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8 years ago

@1 Or at least by people who were just hungry when it was hot outside…

Here’s the real question though, which movie is more quotable, this one or The Princess Bride?  Both are amazing at quote-alongs, but it’d be pretty hard to pick a winner.

wiredog
8 years ago

“Now if we can just keep it from exploding!”

I like to quote the pickle dream bit on facebook once in a while. It gets very fun, and odd, reactions.

This is a repost, btw.

 

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8 years ago

Thank you for a lovely review of a movie I loved when I first saw it (in the movie theater!) back in grad school.  I had forgotten the name, but the scenes and sensibility were indelible.  

And yeah – being a nerd in the 80s was like that.  Although my friends and I were not quite so inventive….

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Yoshi Brown
8 years ago

As a nerd, I loved Real Genius.  I still do.  You explained why quite elegantly.  Pure mathematicians don’t usually get involved in stuff like this, though.  I thought about it … but I was (and remain) a pure theoretician.  I’m horrid at real-world applications. I could easily plan something like this. Carrying it out is someone else’s job.

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8 years ago

So, as I was reading this, I couldn’t help but be certain I had read it before on this site, despite the lack of a “Please enjoy this encore…” sub-head on it.

Turns out I’ve read it twice before:
In May 2015 (http://www.tor.com/2015/05/21/30-years-later-real-genius-is-still-the-geek-solidarity-film-that-nerd-culture-deserves/)

And again in January 2016 (where it even keeps the “30 years later” bit – http://www.tor.com/2016/01/01/30-years-later-real-genius-is-still-the-geek-solidarity-film-that-nerd-culture-deserves-2/).

 

I’m guessing/hoping someone just forgot to call it an encore post, but if so, why the title change? Also why an encore post twice?

 

All the above being said, Real Genius is a great movie and was my first exposure to Val Kilmer (I didn’t happen upon Top Secret until many years later, more’s the pity). I was 13 when Real Genius came out and identified with Mitch in so many ways.

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11 days ago
Reply to  KalvinKingsley

I’m assuming that this repost, lacking as it does any careful updating, is a quickly-mounted tribute to the recently-deceased Val Kilmer.

ChristopherLBennett
10 days ago
Reply to  Spender

Huh? The heading says it was posted in February 2017, and I don’t see it listed on the Latest Articles page.

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10 days ago

Fine, “repost” isn’t the exact correct word. But it’s currently at the top of the Home page and one could be forgiven for skipping the fine print.

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8 years ago

RotN has the virtue of being a funny revenge flick, but yeah, it’s not really about geeks. And while Real Genius is indeed a fantastic movie, it does have one regrettable trope. The whole idea that the CIA (and by extension the government and the defense industry) is some evil, shadowy organization just out there to “kill people” and can’t possibly be good is never seriously challenged. They kind of subvert it by making the “bad guy” in the film the one enriching himself at the expense of the CIA, but the general tone is still there.

I think the reason Real Genius wasn’t a huge success like RotN and other similar movies is that it is too authentic. Just like people don’t always understand genius in real life, they weren’t able to appreciate it in the movie. It doesn’t make sense to them. 

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8 years ago

I’ve never seen or heard of this film. But I approve of it on the grounds that I would totally use a pool party as a chance to test scuba equipment and/or be attracted to someone else who was doing so.

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DaveMB
8 years ago

As I said the last time this was posted, and as KRad alludes to above, the main reason the student life was so convincing in Real Genius is that the producers did their field work at CalTech.  When it came out, I was in grad school and one of my roommates had been a CalTech undergrad — he said they got the culture exactly.  One in-joke was the frequency of the acronym “DEI” in the film.  At CalTech that means “Dabney Eats It”, referring to one of the dorms.

I didn’t see any evidence that anyone involved with Revenge of the Nerds had ever spoken with a high-achieving science student.

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Skip
8 years ago

@7. Like I was in grad school when this came out and I got to say that the whole CIA/evil/government thing was as spot on as anything in this movie. This was a time when a lot of people, especially in the scientific community, were freaking out over Reagan and his Star Wars ramping up of the cold war. Read the book Star Warriors about people who would have been Chris’ and Mitch’s peers (and Kent’s clique) working on some truly horrific weapons for the military.  

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8 years ago

The secret weapon plot is very 80s. Of a time when you learned about “duck and cover” drills in history class, and learned they were pointless, as when nuclear war came, nothing would protect you. Just life growing up at the And of the Cold War. 

Iwas just starting high school when this came out but d remember seeing it, and enjoying it, in college. “Revenge of the Nerds “made me uncomfortable, in this was a movie that seemed to welcome me as me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Baylink
8 years ago

There’s actually a list on the web somewhere of *all* the inside Caltech jokes that appear in the film, composed, I think, by the alum who was one of the technical advisors.

And, elsewhere on the web, there’s a draft script of the film — including the scene where Chris Knight follows Sherry Nugil up the stairs at the company where he’s applying for a job without fading out — and in fact, surprisingly, almost none of Kilmer’s lines were ad libitum; that was all in the script.

Still one of my top 5 favorite films of all time…

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Tom
8 years ago

I saw this movie when it first came in in the summer of 1985. That was a brilliant year for creative films with fairly low budgets. Weird Science also came out that same year, as did My Science Project (the weakest of the three, admittedly, but still a lot of fun). I enjoyed Real Genius, immensely, as it reminded me of the sorts of pranks the “brain” clique in high school pulled off. Some of those were epic.

By comparison, I couldn’t get past about 20 minutes of Revenge of the Nerds. It was just another stupid, raunchy college comedy that in no way presented anything true about college life. The nerds were only nerds in dress and social awkwardness; the characters in that RotN utterly lacked the genius, and fascination with learning, that truly mark brainy people as unique.

Revenge of the Nerds is a complete waste of time. Real Genius is the real deal.

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11 days ago
Reply to  Tom

1985 also brought us Explorers, which contained excellent portrayals of pre-teen nerddom.

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Jon
8 years ago

Re the gender/racial balance thing, Real Genius was reasonably representative of Caltech (where I was a student at the time) in that time period: women were only admitted starting in 1973 and the ratio was about 6:1 M:F at time time, Asians maybe 20% or so of the students, and IIRC there were two Black students on campus. It took them decades but the gender ratio is much improved now; they finally broke the dynamic where pre-frosh women would come to campus and the current female students would warn them against accepting admission, due to the toxic gender dynamics of a campus with a 6:1 ratio where almost *everyone* was a socially incompetent outcast…

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Scott
8 years ago

I enjoyed RotN for what it was.  Dumb, brilliant to a 14 year-old, humor with with minimal social redeeming qualities. But I really don’t think it ever meant to be more.  A early computer-age re-work of Animal House.  

Did enjoy Real Genius as well.  It was odd, sweet, and poignant.  I probably thought less of it then than I do now.  Always a problem when we review things far removed from their timeline (as with RoTN).  

However, I always thought that David from War Games represented the “nerd” of the 80’s most realistically.  Perhaps because it wasn’t casting him as a 180+ IQ but just your run of the mill nerd. It also showed, to an earlier point, that while the military has questionable goals/tactics at times, there are real people involved with it that certainly don’t agree with everything.  Of all the 80’s “nerd” movies, I think it represents the genre about as well as any (even with 8″ floppies and audio couplers, lol) 

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8 years ago

Great essay. I’m particularly fond of this film for portraying Jordan’s neuro-atypical quirks in a non-patronizing way. For me, this was a case of “inclusion matters”, since I started getting my own series of head-scratching neurological diagnoses about the time I first saw Real Genius.

One big disappointment is that nobody involved in this movie went on to do anything quite like Real Genius. The director went on to have a solid career, but she never made another movie I care about. The writers went on to churn out, of all things, the Police Academy crapfest. Val Kilmer was briefly a hot property, but in very shallow movies. And the other actors, including the talented Michelle Meyrink, just disappeared.

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7 years ago

You could have made your point without the slamming and inaccurate portrayal of RotN.

RotN was meant to be funny! And it was much funnier than RG. RG is a movie I always watch and is good for all the reasons you subscribe to in your piece.

However, you do yourself and your readers a disservice with your pounding of RotN. Of course, the two movies are as different as night and day. Because they represent two (or more) sides of the same issue and how some react, want to react, or dream they could react.

Go through, take out the “comparisons” to RotN and see the excellent piece buried beneath the unnecessary garbage.

Then go back and apply your considerable talents to a new viewing of RotN and see it for what it was.

One thing it did much more so than RG was to make Nerds acceptable. That is not to be overlooked.

krad
7 years ago

rightorwrong: The acceptability of nerds had absolutely zero to do with Revenge of the Nerds. Or Real Genius, for that matter. Both were cashing in on a piece of subculture, with the difference being that Real Genius understood it and dug into it and Revenge of the Nerds was just using the nerd/jock dynamic to tell a bog-standard underdog-overcomes-the-odds storyline. It’s structurally no different than Animal House, just with weirdos as nerds and preppies as jocks.

No, what made nerds acceptable was the tech revolution of the 1990s, as suddenly the jocks found themselves relying on the nerds for tech support once they became grownups. Plus nerds started getting into positions of power in Hollywood.

—Keith R.A. DeCandido

 

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11 days ago
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As early as 1986, Peggy Sue Got Married observed that the class nerd would have a leg up on everyone by adulthood.

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Heather
6 years ago

Real Genius will always be my favorite film about college & Ferris Bueller’s Day Off my top highschool movie because they bucked that tiresome 80’s trend of sex-crazed, popularity-obsessed teen flicks. Compared to the usual tripe offered to 80’s kids, Real Genius & Ferris Bueller were breaths of fresh air for the growing mind & spirit. They both encouraged kids to have a healthy philosophy to living-while-studying & considering their future in an unpreachy way.

One thing even most fans of this film don’t notice is when young Mitch Taylor drops his books/papers & looks into the face of Lazlo helping him pick stuff up is that Mitch is seeing his future self. The actor who plays Lazlo Hollyfeld really does looks like an adult Mitch with a beard. This smart film about smart people is even smarter than I realized! I also often wondered why Real Genius didn’t have an available soundtrack of its amazing song line-up. Very unusual for a youth-market 80’s flick to pass up such an opportunity…maybe it was a licensing issue.

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11 days ago

“though Chris’ friend Ikagami is present and happily avoids most of your average Asian stereotypes aside from smartness” – well, but he would not be there except he was smart to begin with, so I’m not sure this qualifies as stereotyping in this instance?

ChristopherLBennett
10 days ago
Reply to  zdrakec

But that’s what makes it a stereotype. People who believe ethnic stereotypes would expect to see Asian people included in a group of STEM-oriented geniuses, while they would not expect it of other nonwhite ethnic groups. The stereotype is that Asians are more likely to be science or math geeks than, say, athletes or guitarists or ladies’ men or whatever.

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10 days ago

Not sure I agree in this particular case only. We see lots of STEM-oriented geniuses here who are NOT Asian…

ChristopherLBennett
10 days ago
Reply to  zdrakec

Well, yes, obviously they wouldn’t have more than one token Asian character amid the predominantly white cast, because that’s how nonwhite characters were traditionally treated. But the stereotype said that the one token Asian character was probably going to be a techie geek or math whiz. Revenge of the Nerds had a token Asian nerd too, one that I gather was far more stereotyped in other ways.

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Dane
10 days ago

Real Genius is only partly responsible for us naming our daughter Jordan. Partly. But it was a factor.
It’s just happy coincidence that our Jordan turned out to be one of the smartest people we know. ❤️

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